Should Adventists Invest In Gold, Silver

and the

Precious Metals and Gems?

Isa 2:20 In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made [each one] for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;

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----- Original Message -----

From: CONFIDENTIAL (Name Withheld)

To: AdventistHotIssues@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:01 AM

Subject: [AdventistHotIssues] Lindsey Williams - 2012

 

 

Dear Brother Ron,

I have watched the link about Lindsey Williams and his predictions about the year 2012 on your site: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA4Pu7af58c) and he urges the people that in order to prevent heartache in the future (end of 2012) when the dollar will be worthless, the people needs to buy gold and silver now. Should we heed his advice?


Blessings,

CONFIDENTIAL (Name withheld)

Ron responds:

 

Dear friend,

 

Thank you for your question which I am sure looms in the mind of many folk, including Seventh-day Adventists.  I have posted Lindsey Williams’ videos for whatever help they might be in discovering the plans of the elitists, because he claims they have told him much about what they plan to do, but I certainly do not believe everything he and/or they say. For example, you might have noticed how he mentions we can live prosperously under the New World Order. That is a satanic lie as far as it references any true Christian at that time.

 

Either Lindsey Williams does not understand the Mark of the Beast, and/or he does not agree with the SDA position on it. He will most likely take the Mark to live prosperously for a time. But all who take it will get the sores that will not heal, which are part of the first plague. And, of course, they lose eternal life for their choice of temporal prosperity. Where does the Bible say Christians can live prosperously during the little and great time of trouble? Only those who take the mark will be flattered by the beast power for a short time, and then even the whore’s brothel (the Vatican) is burned by the New World Order banker elitists, who constitute the beast the whore is riding upon in Revelation 17.

 

Let’s reason this issue out. If the Bible says that man will be regulated to the point he cannot buy or sell lest he take the mark of the beast, a very foolproof means of control will have to be instituted to prevent the trading (barter) of gold and silver and other commodities on a private level. That “foolproof” means of control will most likely consist of outlawing gold, silver and any precious gem or metal and making it a death penalty to deal in such so that folk will not risk their lives by being disobedient to the law of the land. A death penalty will also need to be legislated to prevent BARTER in any other commodity. This is why the 144,000 will be totally dependent upon God.

There could be a very short window of time that some buyers of gold will be able to trade in their gold for credit, but the Lord has impressed me that there is not enough gold and silver in the world to honor all the purchases of these commodities which have occurred ON PAPER. Some would come up on the short end of the stick, and that would most likely be those who refuse to take the mark of the beast. Those who will agree to take the mark might be credited for some of their holdings.

Trade in the precious metals and gems has become a huge arena for speculation as the world bankers can and do regulate rises and falls in the value of these items and at times great losses thereby accrue to investors in these items. I know of an SDA who invested in gold and silver awhile back. I warned him what Ellen White said about speculation, and he mockingly retorted that “everything is speculation.” In other words Ellen White did not know what she was talking about in all she said about speculation! And this man claims to be giving the last message via the teaching of God’s love and that He does not kill anyone. He has used some of his increases in these commodities to purchase houses and land, but it will be interesting to see if the Lord takes care of him in the time of trouble considering his mocking of Ellen White on speculation.

Some have speculated that tools would be a better item to buy and sell later. But what if the government makes it a death penalty to barter? The Bible says that family members even, will be betraying one another to save their own heads. Do you think non-family folk will risk their lives to trade (barter) with ANYONE?

Non-Availability of Gold and Silver

I have heard that it is now almost impossible to buy gold and silver that you can take possession of and be able to rely on its purity. Banks first do an assay of any gold and silver they redeem currency for. They charge a fee for this as well. It may well be a provision of God that gold and silver is now difficult to purchase! Know one thing: God will protect and feed those who are obedient and faithful to him. That is all that matters. If you are not obedient and fully serving Him out of a motive of love for what Jesus did for us, you will perish. This is the best advice I am authorized to give. Lindsay Williams proposes to instruct you as to how to protect your dinner table, but only God can do that and there are conditions for receiving that assurance, that promise. Personally, I have not an ounce of gold or silver. I realize that it is easier for some to rely on the purchase of gold and silver than sacrificing to obey God, but this decision is personal to each one of us. Thanks be to God, there is no shortage of supply on the gold He counsels us to buy in Revelation 3, message to Laodicea! And it is meted out on a non-biased, non-prejudicial basis, and FREE TO ALL who desire it! All Praise be to You Jesus, Our Mighty God and Saviour!

Just as it’s harder for a rich man to enter heaven, so it would be harder for a man standing on a reliance upon gold, silver and/or precious gems to rely totally on God by self-sacrificing love for, and faith in Him. Ellen White said that Christ could have come in 1884 and 1888. Did she ever advise the purchase of gold and silver for any time of trouble that would have had to accompany either of those comings of Christ?

Consider that Lindsey Williams does not know of the Loud Cry. We would have to have gas and transportation and sustenance in order to give that cry. Were it necessary to stash gold and silver, surely God Himself would not have left us without that knowledge! And that would include God’s instruction of such via the Spirit of Prophecy. But to the contrary, God says that man will cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made [each one] for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;. So the big question is: DO YOU BELIEVE GOD?

The only gold God tells us to purchase is described in Revelation 3. That would be the gold of self-sacrificing faith in, and love for Christ, tried in the fire of obedience. You can gain an entire world of gold and silver, yet lose temporal and eternal life for lack of the gold we are instructed to buy.

*Global Meltdown: Investors Are Dumping Nearly Everything [including Gold] http://www.cnbc.com/id/44626413

 

*The globalists can pull the fiat carpet from underneath paper gold/silver at anytime and have been doing just that [I told you Gold and Silver is not a safe investment! Watch the video!]

 

The world bank sold huge sums of gold to Arabic countries and then greatly reduced the price and bought back the gold from them at the reduced price. That same thing could occur with the masses later.

 

I do consider it wise to store a little food ahead for crises other than the great time of trouble. During the great time of trouble, those who go through that time, the 144,000, will be totally dependent upon God for their next morsel of food and protection from the seven last plagues and other pestilences.

 

Financially, Ellen White did encourage savings. The best we can do is to maintain a guaranteed savings account in a reputable national bank. You will make little interest, but such an account is supposed to be guaranteed to return what you have in that account. This is the wisest course while we can buy and sell without taking the Mark. Anything else is speculation. I have outlined in my end-time vision of what to do and when to do it, exactly when we should sell all and put our money into books and other witnessing materials.

 

*Nigel Farage: Financial “Cataclysm” To Come, Gold to Unimaginable Levels [When the new world currency is introduced by the world bank, gold and silver trade will be outlawed and all who have invested in such commodities will lose everything they have. The Bible says gold and silver will be worthless and idols of silver and gold will be cast to the moles and bats: Isa 2:20 "In that day a man shall cast his idols of silver, and his idols of gold, which they made [each one] for himself to worship, to the moles and to the bats;" Our dependence moment by moment is to be upon God, not gold, silver or anything else.]

 

The Trading of Over the Counter Gold and Silver to be IllegalWHAT THEN?!

 

Notice these notices from Google on gold, silver and precious metals:

 

1.  Gold/Silver OTC trading illegal for US residents after July 15 ...

www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread718226/pg1

17 posts - 15 authors - Last post: 18 Jun

Gold/Silver OTC trading illegal for US residents after July 15, 2011?, page 1 ... andother sites, it seems gold and silver trading will be illegal after July 15. ... trading over the counter precious metals, including gold and silver, ...

 

2.   Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal ...

www.zerohedge.com/.../trading-over-counter-gold-and-... - United States

18 Jun 2011 – other activities in addition to retail forex transactions. The CFTC's ... for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the ...

 

3.   Warning! Obama Law Makers Make Gold & Silver Bullion trading is ...

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28 Jun 2011 – ALL Trading Outlawed After July 15, 2011 ... We are waiting to see which other dealers inform their customers that trading gold and silver over the .... As for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the Act ...

 

4.   What Was The Gold Standard?

economics.about.com/cs/money/a/gold_standard.htm

Other precious metals could be used to set a monetary standard; silver ... in 1933 when President Franklin D. Roosevelt outlawed private gold ownership (except ...

 

5.   Dodd-Frank rules outlaw retail gold, silver trading? - The Tell ...

blogs.marketwatch.com/.../dodd-frank-rules-outlaw-retail-gold-silver...

20 Jun 2011 – ... to trade over-the-counter precious metals, including gold and silver... so if it doesn't look like a futures transaction – in other words, if it is ...

 

6.   RED ALERT: Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be ...

sgtreport.com/.../breaking-news-trading-of-over-the-counter-gold-an...

18 Jun 2011 – other federal regulatory agencies such as the CFTC. This means that in... for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the .... “I have no idea but if OTC gold and silver is being outlawed it's a good thing. ...

 

7.   The Unruly Pedestrian: Cash Sales of Precious Metals Banned in ...

globewwatch.blogspot.com/.../cash-sales-of-precious-metals-banned-i...

27 Sep 2011 – Cash Sales of Precious Metals Banned in France ... a "goldbug" (someone who procures and collects gold, or other precious metals, like silver). ...

 

8.   Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal - Infowars

www.infowars.com/trading-of-over-the-counter-gold-and-silver-to-b...

19 Jun 2011 – This means that in the future, different market participants may be ... As for OTC precious metals such as gold or silver, Section 742(a) of the Act ...

 

9.   Gold & Silver Trading Ban in US

www.100forexbrokers.com/gold-silver-trading-ban/cpage-1

The regulation will not affect Gold & Silver trading in other countries. ... If Gold andsilver trading using margins is banned to protect traders, why has forex ... and targetting of, retail forex and precious metals traders is an absolute insult given ...

 

Trading OTC Gold and Silver Illegal July 2011 - Kitco Forums

www.kitcomm.com › The Markets  Gold discussion group

10 posts - 5 authors - Last post: 19 Jun

Trading Of Over The Counter Gold And Silver To Be Illegal Beginning July 15 ...prohibiting US residents from trading over the counter precious metals, including goldand silver, .... You're trading against other FOREX users. ...

 

 

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